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== Chaos Blade and Martial Adepts ==
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{{quote|author=Eurus|Hey, a few things. Firstly, I assume that Chaos Blade is supposed to be a standard  action, not an attack action? Second, the part about a Swordmage's threatened squares omits the all-important specification of "melee" -- as written, a swordmage threatens any square that they could hit with their Light Bow.
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As a final note, I feel compelled to point out that combining incantations and Tome of Battle abilities is very difficult to do without seriously depowering the Swordmage in question; Cantrip Initiation is just shy of useless. One important thing to realize is that strikes tend to use standard actions rather than attack actions, so a combination Swordmage/martial adept is already going to be not nearly as potent as it seems since he's limiting his incantations per turn drastically.}}
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:On Chaos Blade, correct; that's been fixed.
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:On ''Tome of Battle'', I'll have to look into fixing that, but I'm not sure I really want to just straight up let you combine Incantations with Maneuvers. Originally, I had planned on a PrC that would handle this.
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:[[User:DragoonWraith|DragoonWraith]] &middot; [[User talk:DragoonWraith|talk]] &middot; 15:03, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
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== Shadow Canter ACF ==
== Shadow Canter ACF ==
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Added by Lix Lorn on the Forum thread:
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{{quote|author=Lix Lorn|1=I decided I wanted this in one of my games, so... ACF.
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I know 'wraith said to post on the wiki pages, but... I couldn't find the right pages. ^_^''
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<span style="font-size: 200%; font-weight: bold;">Shadow Canter</span>
<span style="font-size: 200%; font-weight: bold;">Shadow Canter</span>
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'''Lose:''' You do not gain bonus feats from your Swordmage levels. In addition, while you still gain Enhanced Cant +1 at level 4, you do not gain the improved versions at level 8, 12, 16 and 20. In addition, Martial Lore is not a class skill for you.
'''Lose:''' You do not gain bonus feats from your Swordmage levels. In addition, while you still gain Enhanced Cant +1 at level 4, you do not gain the improved versions at level 8, 12, 16 and 20. In addition, Martial Lore is not a class skill for you.
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'''Benefit:''' Hide and Move Silently are treated as Swordmage class skills for you. In addition, you gain Sneak Attack 1d6 at 5th level, increased by 1d6 every third level thereafter. (2d6 at 8th, 3d6 at 11th, and eventually 6d6 at 20th.)
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'''Benefit:''' Hide and Move Silently are treated as Swordmage class skills for you. In addition, you gain Sneak Attack 1d6 at 5th level, increased by 1d6 every third level thereafter. (2d6 at 8th, 3d6 at 11th, and eventually 6d6 at 20th.)}}
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:Honestly, seems pretty weak to me. You could take a single Bonus Feat to get ''Assassin's Stance'', then go into Arcane Trickster and/or Unseen Seer, if you wanted to get much better Sneak Attack.
:Honestly, seems pretty weak to me. You could take a single Bonus Feat to get ''Assassin's Stance'', then go into Arcane Trickster and/or Unseen Seer, if you wanted to get much better Sneak Attack.
:[[User:DragoonWraith|DragoonWraith]] &middot; [[User talk:DragoonWraith|talk]] &middot; 18:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:DragoonWraith|DragoonWraith]] &middot; [[User talk:DragoonWraith|talk]] &middot; 18:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
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== Epic Progression ==
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{{quote|author=Xzoltar|Any chance we can have a Epic progression ?
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# Bonus Feat
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# Enhanced Cant +6
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# Enhanced Cant +7
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Maybe too much Bonus feat, then :
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# Enhanced Cant +6
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# Enhanced Cant +7
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:I personally know nothing about Epic rules and such, nor do I much care for Epic play. I doubt I'll be putting much effort into figuring out an Epic progression. I'm willing to take input on the topic, though.
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:[[User:DragoonWraith|DragoonWraith]] &middot; [[User talk:DragoonWraith|talk]] &middot; 14:42, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

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